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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 22, 2012 23:20:24 GMT 1
Hi folks,
9 person team event held on 14th/15th April at the Chieftain Hotel in Inverness. Entry fee is £100 per team and the comp will be played to Blackball rules. See details below:
Highland Superleague
Highland & Islands
Invitational Championships Weekend Event
14th, 15th April 2012
Chieftain Hotel (Inverness)
Friday night flyer ~ £10 entry per player (all monies paid out in prizes)
Saturday & Sunday
9 Man team event~ £100 per team
All monies paid out in prize fund
Teams shall consist of a minimum of 9 players.
Teams will play in round robin groups, before progressing to knockout stage.
2 points for a win, then result between the teams to decide who will progress to knockout stages.
Further tournament information contact:- Donnie MacLeod (077134119358)
For accommodation contact :- Chieftain Hotel, 2 Millburn Road, Inverness (01463 232241) .............................................................................................. ..............................................
Entry Form;
return with fee’s to Chieftain Hotel, D. MacLeod c/o P.O. Pool Box, Millburn Rd, Inverness, IV2 3PS
As it stands this event clashes with our tour event 2 but I have also enquired about the possibility of the organisers switching the date. If you are interested in playing in this post your interest here.
Brad, if they can't move their date would it be possible to move the date of our event if we get the interest?
Trendy, Flo, Bondies, Boo etc are more than welcome to get a Keith team together too by the way - the more the merrier from Moray!
Cheers,
Adam
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 23, 2012 8:40:52 GMT 1
Meant to say that this is only for teams from the north of Scotland so us, Inverness, dingwall, Thurso, wick etc
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Post by tonymccallion on Feb 25, 2012 22:28:32 GMT 1
I'd be up for this
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Post by Brad on Feb 25, 2012 23:03:31 GMT 1
Clashes with tour event two in Keith  |
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 26, 2012 11:20:28 GMT 1
As it stands this event clashes with our tour event 2 but I have also enquired about the possibility of the organisers switching the date. Brad, if they can't move their date would it be possible to move the date of our event if we get the interest? Hello?! I will happily captain a team. Might be a way of putting the word out to other northern leagues about our events... |
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Post by tonymccallion on Feb 27, 2012 10:43:49 GMT 1
Interleague practice also perhaps?
Surely a compromise can be made with regards to our tour event?
More pool against top players can only be good for the region?
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 27, 2012 20:10:17 GMT 1
Benny has said he would prob play in this if our event could be moved...
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Post by raymack on Feb 27, 2012 20:28:29 GMT 1
If our tour event gets moved I will be going to the Granite City Rally on that day so i'm sorry to say I wont be able to attend the Inverness comp.
Cheers
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 27, 2012 20:37:04 GMT 1
Not sure if anything will happen on this which is a shame because it will be a good comp on top notch tables in a quality venue. Easily the best pool venue in the north of Scotland...
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Post by shaker on Feb 27, 2012 20:49:54 GMT 1
shaker in for this
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Post by raymack on Feb 27, 2012 22:59:31 GMT 1
Not sure if anything will happen on this which is a shame because it will be a good comp on top notch tables in a quality venue. Easily the best pool venue in the north of Scotland... It sounds like a good competition, pity at the moment its the same day as the tour which complicates things right from the word go unless a compromise can be made. Only thing I would say is remember the kerfuffle when the possibility of moving tour 6 last year was discussed.  |
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 27, 2012 23:31:38 GMT 1
I have emailed the organiser and await his reply but he has already intimated that it was extremely difficult to find a suitable date as he had to take into account all of the other league's local comp dates etc. These other leagues have been playing in this comp for some years apparently.
Ray, I remember the debate we had last year well and feel this is worth another! But that's just me lol!
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Post by Brad on Feb 27, 2012 23:54:28 GMT 1
Hi all, unfortnrtunately we're not going to be able to move the tour event. R2 and R1 have moved a tour event each, both in exceptional circumstances which made financial sense and avoided clashes with competitions booked long before ours.
Whilst I agree it sounds like a good tournament, I can't help but think they haven't tried too hard to avoid clashes when it's on the same day as a major tournament involving the Moray leagues' best players.
Shame but hopefully something can be arranged.
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 28, 2012 14:23:13 GMT 1
Well, that is disappointing but not unexpected.
I have asked Donnie to register on here so that he may calm your fears about him 'not trying too hard' as I probably won't do him justice. However, I will make the point that I thought was obvious from what was written above.
I said previously that this invite is not just for the leagues in Moray but is for several other leagues too, leagues that have historically attended this event, so maybe a bit of understanding for the difficulties attached to arranging a suitable date would be more appropriate on your part.
I'm disappointed to read that financial considerations are are deemed more valid than than developing pool in the North of Scotland as reason for moving the dates of events. That is a real shame. We should be going all in to win this event and showcase the talent we have at our disposal.
One of these days, people will begin to look further than the end of their own noses as regards moving the game forward. That day can't come soon enough.
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Post by Brad on Feb 28, 2012 19:05:28 GMT 1
Adam, last years's SEPF AGM decided that regional tour dates would be standardized and set in stone. I can't just change the R4 tour date because someone else runs another tournament on the same day. There'd be hell on after telling other regions they can't move tour dates.
The financial reason I refer to relates to a tour who hire tables in. The tables are already set up on the sat prior to event two for a league event so it's saving them money having their tour at the same time rather than hiring them twice. Totally different to this.
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 28, 2012 19:16:47 GMT 1
Hmmmmm it just seems a little bit poor that exceptions can be made elsewhere when it suits but not here. I hope that they can change their date, will have to wait and see.
Thank you for your replies.
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Post by raymack on Feb 28, 2012 20:50:36 GMT 1
One of these days, people will begin to look further than the end of their own noses as regards moving the game forward. That day can't come soon enough. I understand your frustration Adam. As far as being short-sighted I would say this, largely if not entirely thanks to you we have completed two very successful Region 4 tours which encompass Moray & Highland and Islands. How many players from the latter have felt they could play in these events and if they do not feel they can enter why is that ? Correct me if I am wrong but I think we are pretty much free to play in any SPA league/competition we like .....except we can't if we want to continue playing world rules in our Elgin league. Who is being short sighted in this instance. Granted we had the opportunity to dual affiliate for one season which would have temporarily resolved this problem....were we short sighted there ? Time will tell, or at least ADPL's experience will. However that's all going off the subject slightly, I just think its unfortunate for the guys who want to play in both these events that they fall on the same day. Having said that the choice is there for anyone. |
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 28, 2012 21:43:29 GMT 1
Raymond it is precisely this kind of attitude that will keep divisions in place. I hate it. Who cares how many players have played in our events from the highlands? Would it matter if the answer was 2 or 20? I don't think it would.
The goal should always be to participate in events that bring players in our region together in order to network and increase the potential of even bigger events in the future.
The sooner certain people round here get it through their heads that it is a good thing to 'be the bigger man' if the outcome is worthwhile the better. The 'them and us' rubbish has to be broken down eventually but when people start mentioning the SPA when this comp is nothing to do them then what hope is there?!
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 28, 2012 21:45:32 GMT 1
And yes the choice is there for anyone, you are quite right but out of respect for Brad and the tour I would not encourage players to play in this at the expense of the Keith event.
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Post by raymack on Feb 28, 2012 21:57:44 GMT 1
Firstly I dont have a 'them and us' attitude.
I only mentioned the SPA because I am trying to demonstrate where I think that some (not all by any means) of the short sightedness (which you brought up by the way) lies.
And it is relevant how many Inverness, Nairn or any pool players from the Highlands have entered the tour becuase if considerable numbers were regularly taking part there almost certainly not be a clash of dates as there is in April.
The only problem here is the aforemention clash of dates , not the SEPF, the SPA or a them and us attitude.
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 28, 2012 22:21:44 GMT 1
So you accept that if our players were able to participate in this then it is highly likely that date clashes will be avoided in the future? Taking that further, it seems you would concur we should be giving a bit to potentially gain a lot in the future.
Given your position on the recent debate about affiliation, I do believe that you have a 'them and us' attitude to a certain extent. I am sure you will disagree as is your right but I am entitled to my opinion. Don't worry though, you are far from alone!
You are quite right as regards the dates being the main issue here. My problem with how this has been handled is outlined in previous posts. Anyway, a decision has been made and I will abide by that. I hope that Donnie can find an alternative date that is suitable.
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Post by Brad on Feb 28, 2012 22:26:15 GMT 1
Out of interest Adam, how many teams have entered in previous years? The Elgin League haven't been invited in the last few years to my knowledge, you'd have thought the organisers would have approached the pool leagues directly?
Anyway, more interested to know if any of the northern leagues have ever travelled down in numbers? I haven't had a single answer whenever I've contacted them.
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 28, 2012 22:52:29 GMT 1
As far as I am aware Nairn, Dingwall, Thurso, Wick and Stornoway regularly compete. There has also been the odd appearance from Orkney and Shetland I believe.
I believe Donnie just approached me as he thought I would have contacts for the leagues in Moray that he didn't have/know how to get. No disrespect intended knowing Donnie...
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 28, 2012 23:07:14 GMT 1
Players from these leagues also come down to the chieftain in numbers each year for the Highland Masters singles comp each year. This tournament is a also a good chance to meet new players and test yourself against new opposition. I will be going to this again this year.
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Post by raymack on Feb 28, 2012 23:44:00 GMT 1
So you accept that if our players were able to participate in this then it is highly likely that date clashes will be avoided in the future? Taking that further, it seems you would concur we should be giving a bit to potentially gain a lot in the future. I cannot speak for Brad but I would imagine if there was signigicant interest from players in our region and good communication between both parties then future date clashes could be avoided. I am certainly all for 'giving a bit' ....what do you have in mind ? As you know we essentially played blackball rules for years and years in Elgin. To my knowledge despite having one of the largest pool leagues in Scotland we were never asked to affiliate to the SPA . I was therefore suspicious about the timing and the motives behind their invitation which in my opinion only came on the back of the ADPL decision and our continuing SEPF affiliation. I should add that these suspicions were never eased by the secretary of the SPA when i put them to him via e-mail. I also believe it would have caused turmoil at the end of the affiliation. Hand on heart my concern was for the greater good and stability of the majority in the EDPL. If that gives me a 'them and us' attitude then so be it but for the record I also have concerns over some of the SEPF goings on at times. I hope it can be sorted out. Just to be clear I would have no problem in playing in any such event, only obstacles for me are finding the time, the money and the permission !  |
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 28, 2012 23:47:05 GMT 1
Aye nay worries ray. You can only say it as you see it. Maybe next year eh?
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Post by ac on Feb 29, 2012 8:47:28 GMT 1
Gentlemen, i feel i may have a solution to this unfortunate situation.... Adam, you should lead a team consisting of yourself, woody, ray, tony, pugs, fyffee, benny, neil simpson & shaker. If any other hustlers wish to join or indeed support, there more than welcome to head to ness too. Meanwhile, i'll gladly "chap awa" in keith at the tour. Deal?  |
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Post by Brad on Feb 29, 2012 11:30:51 GMT 1
Ha ha, good shout Cormie!
Adam, if we can arrange dates for the comp next year which don't clash that would be ideal.
Our Regional Tours will be held on the same weekends next year as they are this if that's any help for Donnie.
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 29, 2012 11:33:52 GMT 1
So you accept that if our players were able to participate in this then it is highly likely that date clashes will be avoided in the future? Taking that further, it seems you would concur we should be giving a bit to potentially gain a lot in the future. I cannot speak for Brad but I would imagine if there was signigicant interest from players in our region and good communication between both parties then future date clashes could be avoided. I am certainly all for 'giving a bit' ....what do you have in mind ? I just meant by changing our date we would be showing our capacity to compromise... |
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Feb 29, 2012 11:35:27 GMT 1
Gentlemen, i feel i may have a solution to this unfortunate situation.... Adam, you should lead a team consisting of yourself, woody, ray, tony, pugs, fyffee, benny, neil simpson & shaker. If any other hustlers wish to join or indeed support, there more than welcome to head to ness too. Meanwhile, i'll gladly "chap awa" in keith at the tour. Deal? Self serving pool players? Whatever next lol! ;D |
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