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Post by neill on Aug 22, 2011 22:20:43 GMT 1
I'll be there. Neill.
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Post by Brad on Aug 23, 2011 0:46:36 GMT 1
Nice one, was going to pop in the IO on wed and see if I could catch you, Alan, Mike etc... Might still do depending what time we finish in Burghead. If not, see you a week on tuesday.
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Post by tonymccallion on Aug 25, 2011 13:59:20 GMT 1
I don't really see the big issue here? Mr macleod is absolutely spot on! Play hardball I say! There are always comments on most issues along the lines of that's harsh etc Would any other league or sport on that matter be so kind? Pick the best team, if they turn it down that means they can't attend. If a player wishes to not play for the A team and chooses a different team then he obviously doesn't have his leagues best interests at heart and shuydnt deserve to represent Elgin. And as for people not getting on etc? We are all grown men why shud that be an issue? Sorry if I'm being a bit full on its been a long day.
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Post by raymack on Aug 25, 2011 18:23:09 GMT 1
Tony, I will tell you what I think the issue is.
What you are proposing could potentially stop players who have played in the Interleague for years from participating in this years event.
Who has the right to tell someone its our way or the highway ?
Dont get me wrong I would hope we could get the strongest team possible together but ultimatums such as the one you are suggesting will only make folk dig their heels in even more.
I seem to remember region 4 had a policy of 'inclusion not exclusion' ... i would hope that would be the policy of the EDPL also.
Anyhows the meeting on Tuesday will be the best place to discuss this.
Cheers
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Aug 25, 2011 18:48:24 GMT 1
No my way or highway at all Raymond. This needs to be discussed, not just for this year but for addition to the constitution next year.
We need to have a proper selection policy, just like most leagues do. My preference would be for a stringent policy like the one described previously. However, anything written down would be better than what we have!
Also, this option does not have to be viewed as an exclusion policy. It is only natural that if we have a written down, constitutional select policy that we would want the best players playing in an A team that would be selected by committee. Noone is excluded. Everyone, if they play in the EDPL, is eligible to be picked. Players would only miss out on the interleague if they refused to play having been called up by the committee.
As an example, just think about players who turn their backs on Scotland or refuse to play for their clubs and sit in the stand getting paid and waiting for a move. Do you have sympathy with them?
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Post by raymack on Aug 25, 2011 19:59:40 GMT 1
Adam, I agree with pretty much everything you say in your last post, particularly the 'the this needs to be discussed' part. Which is why I think.......in fact I know that talk of excluding players who refuse to play for the EDPL when selected is only going to serve to alienate them - especially this year when as we speak nothing has been discussed or decided. That is what I have been trying to get across in as tactful a way as possible. Cheers
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Post by thecentralscrutinizer on Aug 25, 2011 21:47:16 GMT 1
Yes mate. Understood! I know we can't do any of this for this year. It's far too late. However, it would be nice to get some consensus for future years.
Whatever is decided will be done so democratically as per normal, so ultimately it will be the EDPL players that decide the way forward.
See you tues!!
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Post by woody on Aug 26, 2011 10:10:14 GMT 1
Apologies but I can't make this meeting now due to other commitments.
Unfortunately I wont be playing in the Interleague, quite happy with playing on a Wednesday night for the craic, that's good enough for me. I would struggle with the hill climb up to the caravan anyhow lol. All the very best on Tuesday, hope things get resolved in the best interests for 'everyone'.
Cheers,
Woody
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Post by tonymccallion on Aug 26, 2011 14:28:18 GMT 1
They would be alienating themselves by refusing to play in the first place! Let's say for example the strongest 8 was picked right now, would any of them refuse to play? Because I don't think they would! We are making an issue out of a problem that may not exist! What I do think though is players might only go if they are in the A team, maybe some of the regulars? If the team is picked I can't see anyone turning it down can you?
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Post by raymack on Aug 26, 2011 15:37:26 GMT 1
Tony I'm not going to say any more on the matter until the meeting on Tuesday night which should go along way to sorting something out. At the end of the day we all want whats best for Elgin pool and all its players.
Cheers
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Post by Brad on Aug 26, 2011 17:09:02 GMT 1
Well said Ray. Also agree with Tony, that we may be making an issue out of a problem that doesn't exist.
Lets leave this 'til Tuesday, however what I will point out in the meantime is that unlike some leagues who select their teams with a selection commitee, our league currently pays nothing whatsoever towards the guys who travel down so I could never sit back and tell someone they couldn't play with their mates if they chose to! I believe Aberdeen pay something like £750 towards interleague costs, if this was the case with us, then yes, I'd maybe back a harsher policy.
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