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ELGIN & DISTRICT POOL LEAGUE
AGM
Wednesday 17th July 2013
Bonnie Earl
Minutes
1) 21 teams were represented at the AGM by 38 players, apologies were received from John Kinnaird, Committee member, who was working.
Teams represented were:
Bonnie Earl A
Bonnie Earl B
Bonnie Earl C
Bowl 2000 A
Commercial
Diceys
Harbour Inn
Ionic A
Ionic B
New Club A
New Club B
Reillys
Rising Sun
Seaforth Club
St Andrews A
Station
Tennant Arms A
Tennant Arms C
Thunderton B
White Horse A
White Horse B
This was a considerable improvement on previous years and the Secretary would like to formally thank all those who gave up an hour of their evening to participate in the meeting for the benefit of the League.
2) Election of committee members
Elected Committee for 2013-14- Unanimously elected
Chairman/Treasurer: Raymond Mackenzie
Secretary: Brad Wight
Match Secretary: Garey Steele
Press Officer: Andrew Cormie
Player Member: Tony Donovan
Player Member: Ian Maclennan
Player Member: John Kinnaird
Debby Greig stepped down from the Committee as she will not be playing this season. The Committee would like to thank Debby for her work with the League and her impeccable attendance record at meetings over the last few seasons.
3) Flanagans C have moved to the Bowl 2000 and will retain their Division One status as the new tenants of the bar have decided they don’t want a pool table. The rule regarding voluntary venue switches was reiterated and it was stressed that this is a one off case for which a precedent was set a couple of seasons ago when the same team moved following the demolition of the Kingsmills Bar.
4) The Treasurer’s report was accepted unanimously. The league finished with a season profit of £111.92 and a healthy balance of £1,600.44
5) Annual registration fees
There will be no change in fees for next season; £35 for existing team, £40 for new. Singles & Doubles fees will remain at £5 entry this season. - Agreed by all present.
6) At the time of the meeting, it was anticipated that 27 teams would register. Unfortunately only 25 have registered this season. The League will have three divisions, nine teams in the top flight and eight in divisions two and three. All teams who won promotion are promoted, the Seaforth Club and the Rising Sun will not be relegated and instead will remain in their respective divisions to plug the gaps left by teams which have folded.
7) Change to Player of the Season (POTS) format.
Following a suggestion for improvement from Alan Duncan, the committee decided to simplify the POTS rules, in doing so, benefiting the players who turn up every week without fail.
Mr. Duncan’s idea was presented by the Secretary and after lengthy debate was simplified further when it was pointed out by Tony McCallion and Ben Royan that effectively there would be no need to count defeats. The following format was unanimously accepted:
From now on, the POTS will simply be down to who wins the most league frames in a season. Walkover wins or cases where a player does not have an opponent will be counted as a win. As before, only your first singles frame of the night will count.
The Secretary would like to thank Alan Duncan, Ionic A, for providing a well presented, written, suggestion for improvement. It is in stark contrast to some vocal critics of the League who identify problems but don’t suggest solutions.
8) Proposals
1) I. Maclennan, Seaforth Club:
Once a player has represented a team in a cup competition, they are then ‘cup-tied’ for the rest of that season and cannot represent another team in the same cup competition if they transfer.
PASSED - Unanimous
2) M. Hawxwell, Bonnie Earl:
That doubles games are abolished from the league and 12 games of singles are played instead.
DEFEATED 17-1
3) M. Hawxwell, Bonnie Earl:
That Blackball rules are adopted in place of World Rules.
DEFEATED 11-7
4) M. Hawxwell, Bonnie Earl:
Rather than writing out the team sheet prior to the start of the match, players are nominated before the start of each frame from the team available on the night.
DEFEATED 14-4
5) B. Wight, Bonnie Earl:
3 points for a win, 1 for a draw.
PASSED - Unanimous 18-0
6) A. Macleod:
That one legged cup games are played over 10 frames and in the event of a 5-5 draw, a re-spotted black penalty shootout is played between both teams. This format was very popular when introduced at the 2012 Scottish Interleague.
TIED - 9-9
The Chairman, Raymond Mackenzie, held the casting vote. Rather than use this vote, he suggested a compromise which was passed by majority vote 15-3. This compromise was:
A re-spotted black penalty shootout will take place in the Division Cup and Meldrum Cup competitions in the event of a tie. Meldrum Cup games will now be played first to 6, permitting a possible 5-5 draw. Division Cup Games are still two legs of nine frames (first to ten). The Knockout Cup and Consolation Cup remain as first to five ties.
In the event of a draw teams must have five players remaining. The shootout is exactly the same as a football penalty shoot out in that five players from each team take alternate shots and the best score after five shots each wins. Sudden death continues in the event of a tie after five shots each.
The shot itself is as such; The black ball is placed on the black spot. The cue ball is placed anywhere behind the baulk line. You have one shot to pot the black in to any pocket , no nominations required. The cue ball must remain on the table and cannot be pocketed.
7) Postponements/no shows.
The League will revert to the rules where a cancelling team will lose 10-0. The Secretary stressed that common sense must always apply in the event of heavy snow or other such occurrences where it is not practical to travel. This rule change was brought about by a number of teams who didn’t adhere to the spirit of the game when postponing games last season.
8) Any other business.
A proposal was submitted by the Commercial and Thunderton B for next year’s AGM to “prevent teams moving pub year after year so as to continuously be successful in the bottom division, potentially depriving other teams of titles and trophies.” To be discussed further next at the 2014 AGM.
Brad Wight
Secretary
EDPL
23 July 2013
AGM
Wednesday 17th July 2013
Bonnie Earl
Minutes
1) 21 teams were represented at the AGM by 38 players, apologies were received from John Kinnaird, Committee member, who was working.
Teams represented were:
Bonnie Earl A
Bonnie Earl B
Bonnie Earl C
Bowl 2000 A
Commercial
Diceys
Harbour Inn
Ionic A
Ionic B
New Club A
New Club B
Reillys
Rising Sun
Seaforth Club
St Andrews A
Station
Tennant Arms A
Tennant Arms C
Thunderton B
White Horse A
White Horse B
This was a considerable improvement on previous years and the Secretary would like to formally thank all those who gave up an hour of their evening to participate in the meeting for the benefit of the League.
2) Election of committee members
Elected Committee for 2013-14- Unanimously elected
Chairman/Treasurer: Raymond Mackenzie
Secretary: Brad Wight
Match Secretary: Garey Steele
Press Officer: Andrew Cormie
Player Member: Tony Donovan
Player Member: Ian Maclennan
Player Member: John Kinnaird
Debby Greig stepped down from the Committee as she will not be playing this season. The Committee would like to thank Debby for her work with the League and her impeccable attendance record at meetings over the last few seasons.
3) Flanagans C have moved to the Bowl 2000 and will retain their Division One status as the new tenants of the bar have decided they don’t want a pool table. The rule regarding voluntary venue switches was reiterated and it was stressed that this is a one off case for which a precedent was set a couple of seasons ago when the same team moved following the demolition of the Kingsmills Bar.
4) The Treasurer’s report was accepted unanimously. The league finished with a season profit of £111.92 and a healthy balance of £1,600.44
5) Annual registration fees
There will be no change in fees for next season; £35 for existing team, £40 for new. Singles & Doubles fees will remain at £5 entry this season. - Agreed by all present.
6) At the time of the meeting, it was anticipated that 27 teams would register. Unfortunately only 25 have registered this season. The League will have three divisions, nine teams in the top flight and eight in divisions two and three. All teams who won promotion are promoted, the Seaforth Club and the Rising Sun will not be relegated and instead will remain in their respective divisions to plug the gaps left by teams which have folded.
7) Change to Player of the Season (POTS) format.
Following a suggestion for improvement from Alan Duncan, the committee decided to simplify the POTS rules, in doing so, benefiting the players who turn up every week without fail.
Mr. Duncan’s idea was presented by the Secretary and after lengthy debate was simplified further when it was pointed out by Tony McCallion and Ben Royan that effectively there would be no need to count defeats. The following format was unanimously accepted:
From now on, the POTS will simply be down to who wins the most league frames in a season. Walkover wins or cases where a player does not have an opponent will be counted as a win. As before, only your first singles frame of the night will count.
The Secretary would like to thank Alan Duncan, Ionic A, for providing a well presented, written, suggestion for improvement. It is in stark contrast to some vocal critics of the League who identify problems but don’t suggest solutions.
8) Proposals
1) I. Maclennan, Seaforth Club:
Once a player has represented a team in a cup competition, they are then ‘cup-tied’ for the rest of that season and cannot represent another team in the same cup competition if they transfer.
PASSED - Unanimous
2) M. Hawxwell, Bonnie Earl:
That doubles games are abolished from the league and 12 games of singles are played instead.
DEFEATED 17-1
3) M. Hawxwell, Bonnie Earl:
That Blackball rules are adopted in place of World Rules.
DEFEATED 11-7
4) M. Hawxwell, Bonnie Earl:
Rather than writing out the team sheet prior to the start of the match, players are nominated before the start of each frame from the team available on the night.
DEFEATED 14-4
5) B. Wight, Bonnie Earl:
3 points for a win, 1 for a draw.
PASSED - Unanimous 18-0
6) A. Macleod:
That one legged cup games are played over 10 frames and in the event of a 5-5 draw, a re-spotted black penalty shootout is played between both teams. This format was very popular when introduced at the 2012 Scottish Interleague.
TIED - 9-9
The Chairman, Raymond Mackenzie, held the casting vote. Rather than use this vote, he suggested a compromise which was passed by majority vote 15-3. This compromise was:
A re-spotted black penalty shootout will take place in the Division Cup and Meldrum Cup competitions in the event of a tie. Meldrum Cup games will now be played first to 6, permitting a possible 5-5 draw. Division Cup Games are still two legs of nine frames (first to ten). The Knockout Cup and Consolation Cup remain as first to five ties.
In the event of a draw teams must have five players remaining. The shootout is exactly the same as a football penalty shoot out in that five players from each team take alternate shots and the best score after five shots each wins. Sudden death continues in the event of a tie after five shots each.
The shot itself is as such; The black ball is placed on the black spot. The cue ball is placed anywhere behind the baulk line. You have one shot to pot the black in to any pocket , no nominations required. The cue ball must remain on the table and cannot be pocketed.
7) Postponements/no shows.
The League will revert to the rules where a cancelling team will lose 10-0. The Secretary stressed that common sense must always apply in the event of heavy snow or other such occurrences where it is not practical to travel. This rule change was brought about by a number of teams who didn’t adhere to the spirit of the game when postponing games last season.
8) Any other business.
A proposal was submitted by the Commercial and Thunderton B for next year’s AGM to “prevent teams moving pub year after year so as to continuously be successful in the bottom division, potentially depriving other teams of titles and trophies.” To be discussed further next at the 2014 AGM.
Brad Wight
Secretary
EDPL
23 July 2013